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dotBERLIN letter to Governmental Advisory Committee  
   

GAC Secretariat
Mohamed Sharil Tarmizi
1016, Electronics Neketan,
6 CGO Complex, Lodhi Road
New Delhi -110 003 India

As PDF per email to gacsec@gac.icann.org and chair@gac.icann.org
 

 

Berlin, 22 February 2007


Information on how dotBERLIN will respect and incorporate other locations with the name BERLIN into its application for the .berlin TLD

 

Dear Mr. Tarmizi

GeoTLDs will become an important part of the DNS in the future. Our company dotBERLIN GmbH & Co. KG appreciates the extensive work and discussion the GAC is pursuing in terms of GeoTLDs, publically last-mentioned at the GAC-GNSO forum at the ICANN meeting in Sao Paulo. The .berlin TLD is the first GeoTLD showing up at ICANN with a serious intent to get approved, but several other applicants awaiting the next opportunity to apply for a GeoTLD string as well, including .paris, .nyc (New York City), .sco (Scots), .cym (Wales), .bzh (Brittany), .gal (Galicia), .lac (Latin American Community) and .africa.

dotBERLIN used many opportunities to get in contact and discuss GeoTLD topics with GAC representatives. We also contributed substantive papers on GeoTLDs issues for information and discussion at the IGF meeting, ICANN meetings and in ICANN discussion forums. One important point in the discussions has been, from the beginning, the question how to respect and incorporate other locations which are signified by the same string that a TLD applicant is heading for.

Although the proposed TLDs for metropolises like Berlin, Paris or New York will be targeted primarily for the communities of these metropolises, we always emphasised how important it is for us, to respect and incorporate, in our case, the legitimate interests of other locations with the name Berlin into our application. It should be mentioned that, worldwide, the name Berlin is mainly associated with Germany’s capital Berlin. Approximately 98% of all Berliners live in Berlin, Germany.

Please find attached to this letter the original text and a courtesy translation of a resolution of the German parliament (Bundestag) from March 7th, 2007, which supports the introduction of GeoTLDs for German cities and regions.

Most locations with the name Berlin have roots in people, culture or relations deriving from Berlin, Germany; sometimes going back centuries. A .berlin TLD will bring awareness to all locations with the name Berlin. It is assumed that especially some of the smaller locations might gain, in comparison, more out of the .berlin TLD in terms of marketing and tourism for the location than the metropolis Berlin itself.

Since the topic is sensitive and relevant to countries, regional authorities and the Internet community at large, we would like to inform the GAC how we prepare to respect and incorporate other locations with the name Berlin. For this reason we have formulated a couple of questions, which will help also other potential GeoTLD applicants to get a clarification.

1.   What is our opinion regarding the .berlin application, taking into account the fact that there are other locations which are signified by the string “berlin”?

Our clear opinion is that other locations with the name Berlin have to be respected and incorporated into the application for the .berlin TLD. 

2.   How do we identify other locations with the name Berlin?

We think that we have identified other locations with the name Berlin effectively. Basis of our research is the book “From Berlin via Berlin to Berlin” by a Berlin based photo journalist who did a round trip visiting 65  Berlins worldwide. He also did extensive outreach about locations with the name Berlin and found all together 72 locations with the name Berlin. We additionally asked the government of the city of Berlin, Germany, if they may provide us with a list of the Berlins which are known to them. We additionally used search engines and tools like Wikipedia, Google Earth/Maps and MSN maps to identify further locations with the name Berlin. Our, almost complete, list of locations with the name Berlin is attached to this letter. 

3.   Which locations should be incorporated?

We think that legally autonomous or incorporated authorities (self-governing entities) should be included. A brief definition of these entities can be found on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_area and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_government. Our research revealed that there should be at least 20 locations eligible to be called a self-governing Berlin. Not eligible should be locations like New Berlin, Berlinchen, Berlyn or haciendas, mountains or lakes with the name Berlin.

4.   How should the other Berlins be contacted and informed about the .berlin TLD application in order to obtain a feedback?

To obtain a feedback of the respective locations we followed different ways. One way we’ve gone so far is to write a letter to all embassies of countries in Germany with locations with the name Berlin, to make the .berlin TLD initiative known to the respective governmental officers. Another way is that we contacted local authorities of Berlins where there was at least an address of the local authorities available. Additionally we visited a smaller Berlin and presented the .berlin TLD at a municipal council meeting.

5.   To what extent should the feedback of the locations be taken into account regarding the decision of approving the TLD?

We think that substantive and legally reasonable objections should be taken into account by dotBERLIN, but that such objections should be able to stop our well-founded application for the Berlin community in Germany only in exceptional circumstances. No answer of embassies or locations should not be withheld to our application. If there are objections we will have to show how to arbitrate and mediate them.

6.   How do we intend to respect and incorporate other locations in our application?

We think that other Berlins should be encouraged to participate in the .berlin TLD and should facilitate the advantages a .berlin TLD could have for their community. To support the well-established bottom-up multi-stakeholder approach we will provide a dotBERLIN-Wiki for all Berliners worldwide to give the community of Berliners the opportunity to get involved in our project, make proposals and work on the registration policies. Ideally there should be agreements for governance of the .berlin TLD between dotBERLIN and local authorities interested in the TLD. We already set out, in the draft of our registration guidelines, the participation of Berliners in other Berlins. We appreciate if authorities, organizations or individuals from other locations worldwide named Berlin would register Second-Level-Domains (SLDs) like cityhall.berlin, like alcadale.berlin or snyders.berlin.

The respect and incorporation of interests of other Berlins should not exceed an extent which threatens the operational aims of the dotBERLIN business plan and thereby the overall success of the TLD for the Berlin, Germany, community.

Since the whole topic may be important to future GeoTLD applicants, we kindly ask you that in your capacity of chair of the GAC, you review, and ask committee members to review, the information we provided and to give feedback to our company.

Sincerely yours,
 

Dirk Krischenowski
Managing Director


Attachments

  • List of locations with the name Berlin

  • Courtesy translation of German Bundestag Resolution 16/4564

 

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